of information about these people, right? and he is now in a position to go after them. the question is does that alienate trump? you know it better because you know bannon better but it doesn't seem that he wants to alienate trump. >> that was his position, i'm not going against trump, i'm going to war against people who can inhibit trump from pursuing a nationalist agenda. it was clear that was one of the people he was talking about. >> steve bannon hates jared kushner and ivanka, he hates gary cohn. he has enemies. his entire life has been finding an opponent and going after them as hard as he could. he did it at breitbart -- >> put some meat on the bones, about this animas. >> his view since election day he believes all of these people