keep our opinions in many cases to ourselves but on issues of decency and facts, that's when journalistst have to speak out. >> i agree. i think that's the difference. when we're talking about what this president has said and done that's exactly the reporting carl bernstein was referring to. we're doing it based on what he says and doesn't say and based on his policies. so anybody that's been following the policies of the administration can tell you not just the rhetoric, but the actual policies being implemented or attempting to be so, the muslim band, language about mexican immigrants, all of this is leading up to actual reporting and taking away what this president means. >> more stories to tell. thank you both for being here. we're out of time on tv but continue on reliable sources.com. since up for the nightly news letter there. sign up at reliablesources.com. see you back here next week.