he's still subject to the rules and standards and laws that apply to anyone with classified information. if there is any known or suspicion about a leak including things that might appear on breitbart or through the rumor mill, everyone should be looking to see bannon, to see whether he's the one. look, normally, i'll tell you, i was just a lowly assistant secretary. normally you have an exit interview. you have to give up your files, hand in your key. you get escorted out of the agency. and so the normal processes appear not to have -- with steve bannon given the oddness of his departure on friday. look, he hasn't done anything wrong yet, but we should be looking at wa what's disclosed or leaked especially through his media platforms to determine whether he might not after all this be the one who is leaking information, that he either knows or took out of the white house, since we have no idea what his exit process was. >> all right. julia cayenne, thank you, as always.