seltzer joins us. was this emmys more political than ever before? >> i think in the trump age everything in hollywood is more political than it was before and that was definitely true at the emmys. it was really the trump white house's credibility crises on display with sean spicer surprising the audience, making jokes about one of his most infamous moments where he was misleading the public after the inauguration when he talked about the crowd size. take a look at this video. what was spicer doing here? was he auditioning for a tv job? take a look. >> unfortunately at this point we have no way of knowing how big our audience is. is there anyone who could say how big the audience is? sean, do you know? [ cheers and applause ]