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so we did not run with the target, run with the crowd. we found shelter. i got a very good friend of mine on the phone and he's an fbi trained with u. s. marshals as well. he kept me very calm. we stayed on the ground. next break, which was very obvious to us that he was reloading, we got shelter up by the stage by one of the trucks. i pulled some garbage cans in front of us. we just stayed put. and the hardest part of this was your instinct as a fist responder. you want to run into it, go to it. and believe me, it was hard to hear people cry, scream, ask for medic, ask for help and you couldn't help them until the shooting would stop and then when it finally stopped i think they were saying like nine or ten minutes, the police were saying that there's reactive

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