in iran. >> yes. >> there's a lot of disagreement going on in the white house. >> since we mentioned tillerson and caitlin, there were the reports that he called the president a more on at the pentagon over the summer and much ado this week about their relationship and he's, you know, full throated endorsements from the president on his relationship with secretary tillerson. secretary tillerson is someone widely, widely respected. do you think just given the track record of others, do you think he's safe? >> if i were to guess, i don't think he is. i think this week he was kind of backed into a corner, he was playing to an audience of one, which is why -- this is a guy who doesn't talk to the press and here he was giving a press conference. >> forced to go out and praise the president. >> and then moments later you had president trump go out there and tweet about it. so he clearly was watching, wanted his secretary of state to do just as much. he was waiting for that and now