clear and wise and doesn't seem like that is the message we're getting from him. >> well, i'm certain that's a message that his own advisers may be telling him. donald trump is donald trump. and the fact is is that he thrives on being always on the front foot, on being aggressive. let's call it what it is. macho behavior. we thought we had gotten past the worst of this a few weeks ago with the insults about rocket man. but quite frankly, when trump looks at puerto rico and isn't able to respond effectively, when he jabs at the nfl and that goes wrong with the take the knee protest, it is like, what is my latest move? let's bring north korea back in the frame. he keeps me in the spotlight. he thinks it makes him look good. >> scott lucas, as always, we appreciate you coming and talking with us. maybe at some point we're going to have something positive that