for the current secretary of state. i had the opportunity yesterday to ask former dni james clapper what his sense was, this is someone who served multiple administrations, democrat and republican at multiple levels, here's what he had to say and i have to say it was not a sanquine prediction from mr. clapper. >> i would hope he would, but i think it's going to be increasingly difficult with him to with the president kind of undercutting what he's trying to do. i think secretary tillerson has the right instincts about particularly with respect to say north korea, that exploring what the potential paths are diplomatically, and i think that's the only way ahead. so to me, secretary tillerson is a voice of reason. >> voice of reason there. certainly an endorsement from dni clapper and you hear that