difficult terrify say anything because i think this rot has -- has gone not just from hollywood but into our politics, as well. it's reprehenceable and i think it's something that ises a political in this way. we see people who are influential on the right, as well who have faced allegations like this and have turned out to be true. there's an inertia that you can see in these stories and i think that's why we're seeing this play out this way. >> that's an excellent point as republicans understandably and some democrats gave them the opening said why are you waiting so long, some of the republicans waited a long time when it came to roger ailes, as well which is why there should be a simple default here. outrageous conduct should be condemned. >> as a society, we are encouraged or expected often to separate the actions of reprehensible human beings from