collusion. did you know of those two events? >> no, i did not. and the statement i made at the time was true. i had no direct evidence of collusion. now, we had lots of concerns, because we were aware of multiple meetings that were going on while -- at least my part, was not directly of the content of these meetings. but we were certainly concerned, and the metaphor i've used before is i think our dashboard warning lights were clearly on about what was going on. but to say specifically that we had evidence of -- smoking gun evidence of collusion, no. but, of course, a lot more has come out that's, you know -- raises i think circumstantial questions, if nothing else. >> what message do you think president trump is sending to vladimir putin right now in terms of russia's continued attempts to interfere in