these george papadopoulos has not actually lied about the contacts, strains credulity that this would be something that naturally happens. there are nor characters now associated with the trump campaign than in "war and peace." all of these congressional testimonies, congress has some limited power to hold people in contempt if they're not being forth coming, but mueller has access to all of these e-mails that are showing who knew what when. all of these statements can be prosecuted if they are intentionally false. any statements they make to mueller can be prosecuted for false statements, so they people are playing with fire. >> it's a great point, too, about papadopoulos.