what they were. matt lauer's interview with hillary clinton at the intrepid was criticized widely for how he handled it. before we even knew about any of these allegations. >> that idea that people are trying to come to grips with, you know, the person they saw on television and the person that might have been -- he's alleged to have sexually assaulted someone in his office off-camera. i wonder if it's too soon to have those conversations. what do you think? personally, i as a viewer keep thinking about how many millions of viewers loved spending their mornings with matt lauer. and now feel somehow that was tainted. >> i mean, that's what you're hearing a lot of. our colleagues went out and spoke to "today" show fans, just the day after this all happened. and you heard a lot of sadness in their voices and you hear a lot of sadness in the voices of colleagues of these people who are accused of these -- of these things and lose their jobs as a result. and it's true. because you can feel sad for both the person who is the accused. you can feel really sad for the victims, as well. and what "today" show has to