comey testified in july under oath that there is no evidence that hillary clinton lied to the fbi and the president said the contrary with the lack of any evidence. i'm old enough to remember when, back in 1999 then senator jeff sessions and mitch mcconnell and 40 republican lawmakers were going after the president and using the terms obstructing justice, then president clinton, saying he obstructed justice in the monica lewinsky affair investigation. now you have the argument, as chris just laid out, that the white house is saying that the president cannot obstruct justice. >> right. so, obstruction of justice was in the articles of impeachment for both nixon and for clinton. >> yeah. >> and, listen, this is a legal strategy. that's what we need to understand. you argue that your client can't obstruct justice when, on the facts, you cannot argue that he