was likely one of them, and that jared kushner very likely was consulted, and was the vice president? >> understood. thank you very much for giving us your perfect ty spective on this. let's bring in people to help us synthesize it all. editor at large, the man behind the point, chris cillizza. >> please, chief synthesizer. >> known as the moog. what do you think about what you heard from kellyanne conway? let's start there. >> fascinating tv. i think what you heard there was kellyanne essentially trying to -- let's talk about roy moore, because there's a lot. let's focus on roy moore.