>> you hid behind your religion. you went to france to be a missionary while guys were dying in vietnam. do not talk to me about honor and integrity. [ applause ] and now i'm going to get personal. you ran for commander in chief. you had five sons. not one day of service in afghanistan and iraq. >> john, listen. the president, the current president who he fought for was an adviser to, had multiple draft deferments, four for college and another for bone spurs in his heels. and bannon was of fighting age during the vietnam, stayed in college, and later after the war joined the navy. he did serve. but the question here, hypocrisy much? >> look. i know steve relatively well. you have to put steve in context a little bit. first he's a smart strategist.