somehow. >> interesting. susan, jessica reported on the specific email that was sent five days after the trump tower meeting where rob goldstone forwarded a cnn story on russian hacking of dnc emails to a russian attendee of the meeting. describing it as -- and the words were eerily weird. given what was discussed in the meeting, what do you think of that? >> apparently other sources have tried to characterize this as oh, it was weird because hacking wasn't discussed. i think that's sort of once again we're being asked to ignore the simplest most obvious explanation which the only reason you would say isn't this eery with regard to what we talked about before, was if you talked about something related to the dnc and hacked emails. once again the narrative here and what we're being asked to believe it doesn't hold up. >> yeah, steve, you find the email to trump's aide, the one where rob goldstone encourages