over euphrates. >> that's syria, absolutely. >> they're a receptive audience. that's different. this is the intel community. we've talked about this before. the russians did this to affect the outcome of the election and they're still doing those kinds of things without a coordinated empowered american response. >> are you expecting this to happen again in 2018? >> well, yeah, well, it's happening now. i mean, we can actually see the russian bot nets and their in r interference with real and not real people in american social media. they grabbed on to the nfl take a knee controversy and played both ends. all they want to do is divide us. and until we have a national response that guards against that, that educates the broader population, that has a general consensus that that's exactly what they're doing, we're going to be a weaker nation. >> that's upsetting. all right. general michael hayden, thank you so much. really appreciate it. breaking news from the capitol, with just minutes to go until the big reveal on the