the guest list together yet. who knows whether he's going to be invited or not. i wouldn't want to ruin that surprise. >> that's a very important question for the british press over here. the question of whether the former american president might be invited to a british royal wedding even before the current american president has taken up his invitation to come to the uk. >> i think the technical term for that is a royal punt. thank you so much for that report. joining me now is chris lew, former deputy secretary of labor and a former class mate of the president, former president obama in law school. among other things. amy parn, senior political correspondent at the hill. thank you both for joining me. what's your take on this interview and particularly how personal he got? i just want to jump ahead to something that we didn't see the there but that the former president did say about how he