present, is that correct? >> they were present in the paula jones civil action but not in the map room with ken starr's 5 1/2-hour grilling of president clinton troops. >> so what is the timing of this of whatever the interview would be tell you about the length or status of the investigation? i would assume that mueller would want to talk to the president toward the end of an investigation after he was already interviewed and has all the information rather than earlier in the investigation or mid investigation and then have there be something else later on he would take to talk to the president about? >> that's right. however, they could also break it up into work streams. so they may come to a conclusion or the point where they're ready to interview the president with respect to the conspiracy to interfere with the election or the obstruction of justice. and they may say to the