>> who is they? >> other people. without saying who i spoke to, the other senior people in the white house. >> so who did you speak to at the white house? because how many people did you talk to at the white house? you said 200 people. >> yes. >> 200 interviews? >> 200 interviews. so inside, outside. you know, people from trump's past. you know, as many people as i thought would have relevant information, i was certainly trying to see. in terms of in the white house, deep. a deep bench of the people closest to the president. >> including top advisers and top people in the white house? >> absolutely. >> and the president. you said you interviewed the president for three hours. he said that is untrue. the white house says the last tomb you spoke to the president was in february. and the conversation wasn't an interview at all. and you were -- talking about the book. >> i don't know what he thinks of is an interview or not.