the conversation i had with him in february was perfectly on the record. or that is to say he didn't put it off the record. in successive things, we spoke in a friendly way. important point here. and that is the point. they're trying, of course, they first tried to put this is this is about steve bannon. and it's not. it's a book about the president of the united states. and then they started to try to put this oh, well, i didn't see the president. i only saw the president for this three hours. >> they're saying -- >> it was february the conversation, wasn't an interview. you were telling the president about the book. so how many times did you speak to the president as president? >> well, okay. you don't tell the president anything because he motor mouths. he just keeps talking at you. it's not a question of me