it's about things like lying to the fbi, phenomenal crimes. there has been talk about whether there's a case for obstruction of justice. so the president is distracting about collusion? is that why he is talking building? >> we have following the contrails of the investigation to define what he has. we have no way of knowing that. he is looking at whether there is evidence of illegal collusion between trump campaign and the russians, obstruction of justice, financial relationships between donald trump or others in the campaign and russia. so there is a lot of things he's looking at. we don't know what the end point of that is. the president pronounces thrg no collusion is his position. we have no way of knowing any of that. there is no evidence to date that would suggest he was involved in anything like that that led to the interference in the campaign. but on this broader hillary