situation. by the way, they are the advocates of the hard line immigration policy that president trump has endorsed and that faces a lot of resistence among other republicans because it takes the party from a position of opposing undocumented immigration towards a clear and unequivocal opposition to legal immigration and that is a very important distinction and movement for the party at a time when american society is diversifying. >> a few days ago tried to recall and now suddenly are certain he didn't say these things. why this shift? >> it is a good question. it is unusual to look back on a meeting and not recall whether or not something happened and then to recall it with such certainty to know that a specific comment wasn't spoken. the exact word the president used is less the point.