he'll have democrats there shaking hands. we got daca done, but he's going to get his wall. >> listen, i think he's on the way to some miniaturized version of a wall that he can hold up and say, you know, he got that. >> nothing trump does is miniature. not when he explains it. and he is good at winning the messaging battle. >> listen, if he gets two bricks and a toothpick, he's going to say it's the biggest wall ever. >> that's on you if you give it to him, though. if the democrats give it to him, then you're giving him that win. >> i mean i think everybody else got a chance to talk. i want to lay this out from a progressive perspective. first of all, this is a crisis created by donald trump in order to get the wall. he's willing to put the well being of, you know, tens of thousands of young people at risk. and this is not -- >> van, there's a crisis at the u.s. border. >> you're not going to talk over me. i gave you -- >> let him go, dave. go ahead, van.