approximate the needs president needs to assert it. the branch will work out how they are going to manage that and none of this has happened and, also, he wasn't president during the transition or during the campaign and so this is a very broad assertion that is strange. >> yeah, and it's the threat of exerting executive privilege, which we've seen during this whole time. they are not actually exerting pressure but they are testifying and saying they may down the line. >> in the future. >> so i'm just going to be quiet here. michael zeldin, steve bannon's lawyer calls the white house. >> biz sdplarre. >> the white house then tells them not to talk. is this the way things are normally done? >> well, no. that really smacks of a gag order rather than the assertion of executive privilege. executive privilege typically is a much more surgical application. they asked you for a specific question, asked a specific