is saying, wait a minute, the president is willing to do this, you can't go and shut down the government, you need to give him as we saw luis gutierrez say he was fine with, give him the wall, end chain migration, the visa lottery. the president is running circles around democrats and he doesn't know what he's doing. >> he doesn't know what he's doing. >> would you answer the question? >> conservatives know this is a problem we have to fix, if we don't do it our way it's going to end up, the democrats are going to be the ones running it, so we're going to get border security -- >> hold that thought. we're going to talk more about immigration, what trump said about the wall and you'll get to respond to what jason said right after this. e. before the big announcement, before the auditorium is booked and the press is notified, before the chairs are unstacked or the fancy snacks are set out, before the tech blogs make wild speculations and then other tech blogs contradict those with other,