>> if the name of this nominee is leaked out before i want it to be leaked out, i'm going to blame you and you're going to find that unpleasant. >> i have to tell you something, toby, you're hot when you're like this. >> it's the first wave of what we now have, remarkably specific niche programming. >> "freaks and geeks" really sympathized with the losers. it had great empathy for its characters. ♪ because you don't see that i got something going right here ♪ >> "freaks and geeks" breaks my heart every time i think about it. >> i'm sorry. did i crush your twinkies? >> it lasted 18 episodes. and they're perfect 18 episodes but nbc hated it so much. >> roll down the windows because i got a big one a-brewing. >> they thought it was a show by losers, about losers for losers. they hated it. they wanted no part of it. they killed it. >> at the end of the nineties, the jig is starting to be up for