really discourage women who are in a difficult situation, it is really, really frustrating, and, look, if they want to tout the bravery of general kelly fighting at war, they also need to recognize the bravery of these women fighting against domestic violence, and we need to take a stand and at some point there is going to be a bridge too far and this is it. >> bill, i wonder what you think about some of what we're hearing from the white house. it seems kelly was aware that some of the allegations were holding up the permanent security clearance of porter. he knew that. that he's in the fully aware, how does it stand to reason that kelly didn't inquire about these allegations. it seems to me that if someone says, hey, there is something holding up a security clearance, it is reflexive to say what is that? and if you find out that it has to do with domestic abuse, you say, tell me more. >> yes, i never thought i would hear myself say this right, but i think you got to say that