some air on to the smoldering flames of that fire? that's what your memo's going to do. when the schiff memo comes out you're going to reawaken which one do i believe? >> i've read the schiff memo and nunes memo. the schiff memo will show how deliberately misleading and dishonest the nunes memo is and it is -- it is totally misleadi misleading. even the fbi says it was materially misleading. i think it's worth showing that you can't believe anything these people put out. >> you think it will change minds or will people stay on what side they want to be on? >> i think some minds will be changed. it's a very devastating document about the nunes memo. remember one thing, the whole thing, you're right, it's a tempest in a tea pot, the point of the nunes memo is to distract attention from the real problem which is the -- the real subject