agree. near not secret gun controllers. they have. >> you're saying they have been bought off they must not agree with the position. >> they are now kept. i i don't know how they started but they are kept. >> do you know the definition of conflict of interest. >> no, look. >> no you don't. >> no, no, no you believe none of these people are sincere some of them think the second amendment. >> i never said they weren't sincere. >> here is what i'm saying. i put the information out there. did you hear what i said facts first. >> right. >> but what -- what okay i'll -- >> if you think that getting. >> but what are you suggesting. >> getting thousands of dollars millions of dollars doesn't influence someone nonyou're sadly mistaken come on. >> so you're saying they sincerely believed there are all sorts of gun control measures that will make these go away. >> i think you're doing the same thing now with me in the conversation as people who oppose sensible gun laws do. gou to extremes. and you say things that people are not saying don't want to look at the facts because they