police officers. and ask them if you have to intervene with a kid like this and don't have the tools, what tools do you think you could use. one other simple question. forget about armed guards and forget about single point of entry. this country is incredibly unanalytic. go to canada and say what do you do to stop this? we have more armed guards in schools. just ask people who do this better. i don't understand it. >> isn't the answer access to guns? if that's the question you're raising. isn't that the difference between us and other countries. >> that's exactly right. >> their weapon -- >> that's exactly right. we take an emotional approach. i'm afraid somebody will take my gun and i can't resolve it. i'm an analyst. if you look at numbers numbers on mental health in other countries are comparable to us. we don't have a bigger problem. it's a weapon. a black and white number.