what's the significance of this, and the concept that superseding indictments? >> jake, we expected there might be a superseding indictment especially against manafort. gates was another camp. according to sources we talked to, he was talking to the special counsel's office about a possible plea agreement, something that would essentially avert this step whereby they file new charges against hyim, but now 32 charges filed over in al exandria indicate the talks fell apart, there is no deal for rick gates, and so that means right now they are both headed to trial. that's a big deal because here -- until now, we thought there might be some kind of a plea agreement whereby rick gates would be testifying against manafort and other people higher up in the investigation. at this point, now, it appears that those talks have fallen