go into a trial and win? i'll bet that he himself will plead guilty. i can't believe he'll to go trial. just quickly, at least as significant as the precedent mueller sets, people have attacked him left and right. you have to believe there would be more politically sensitive indictments coming down the road. the precedent he is setting before he gets attacked, don't question me on these indictments. i cross every t, i do the every i. they're hard to escape. the data is incredible. >> and do not lie. do not lie to the special counsel. >> or the fbi. >> and that's what rick gates did in his proffer of all things. on february 1. they caught him in a lie. this happened with papadopoulos as well. if you're going to appear before the tounl, if you have appeared before the special counsel, you