i don't think you can draw a conclusion from it. >> from what questions, some of it is checking -- it would be remiss if they didn't ask. >> they are in a position where they have to tell the truth. that they are going to be, you know, careful or they may be forth coming with some leads. so i think it is part of the puzzle and the matrix we are seeing in all of this. >> i mean, again, on a day normally that would be the lead story, on this day we have had this meeting on gun control, and hope hicks stepping down. when you both look at this white house, just in terms in the way it is organized, the way it is run, have you ever seen a white house like this? >> no. and i think what's going on now, there are two stories that are coming together. there is the mueller investigation. the russian story. and the possibility of collusion and the possibility of