>> but if they were able to get a temporary restraining order, wouldn't that indicate that they had won that round of arbitration? >> well, who is they? according to mr. cohen, this was pursued on behalf of e.c., not d.d. or president trump. and if there is one thing we know of the last four to six weeks, it's that mr. cohen and others close to the trump administration have made it clear that e.c. is not president trump. >> your client did agree to arbitration at the time she signed the agreement, didn't she? >> she agreed to arbitration, but that agreement fell by the wayside when a party to that agreement, namely, mr. trump at the time, did not sign it. that agreement is null and void. it doesn't mean anything. >> can you tell us about this arbitration? can you tell us who appeared on michael cohen's behalf -- you're saying nobody appeared on the president's behalf because this wasn't technically this was just the llc bringing up the