she was implementing the lawful orders of the president. the president approved this program. as a cia staffer, she implemented t you could argue she should are quit because the program was so abhorrent. if democrats like senator wyden think she may support these programs it's a viable question to ask her during a confirmation hearing as director of the cia will she recommend to president trump that he consider any other enhanced interrogation programs? we shouldn't assume she has any personal love of torture because she was following these lawful orders. >> one more quick one, 30 seconds, just on if they're nominated, if they pass through, pompeo leaving the cia to go to state and haspel at cia, how would their working relationship work? how would that affect policy? >> we could see intelligence play more of a role in the policy process. it's a policy input and to date