believe that this guy got a fair hearing at the department of justice. at the very least, the idea that sessions made this decision without recusing himself just seems very, very fishy. and, you know, we need to see the ig's report to understand what was behind this. because i cannot imagine that, you know, it just smells political, it smells very political. and this guy was the subject of unrelenting attacks led by the president of the united states and that -- i don't see the evidence of due process here. and that's important. >> let's talk more about the inspector general report, pamela brown. one of the reasons he's being terminated is because he misled investigators. what does -- let me just read this. this is the statement from jeff sessions. then you can weigh in, pamela.