frequency that you wouldn't need to tell him about $130,000 payment. >> michael was the fixer. there were a ton of matters that michael fixed. donald trump wasn't involved in every single matter. all right. and the other reason. >> i understand that. >> there was a line there for dd. >> david dennison. >> it was blank. right. that's evidence he didn't go to donald trump because the line was blaeng. he left the line blank. >> understood. but i'm making a point you wouldn't go to him only if it happened so frequently you wouldn't need to. when these things come along you take care of it. >> it doesn't have to be sexual in nature. it cob any business problem. believe me, michael cohen got calls 3:00 in the morning. mick alan i would be at dinner and boss calling him all the time. so always problems, in any business always problems.