point and that is that lawyers seem to be divided about whether the president would be doing something illegal by dangling a pardon. there is some who say that he has full powers and he can do whatever he wants with the pardon powers and others say it would be illegal. but just because something is legal does not mean it is right. and it is not right to be dangling pardons in a really sensitive case unless you have something to cover up. >> we are going to be talking about professor dershowitz from harvard on that exact matter. >> we don't know if dowd was freelancing or whether he was doing it at the urging of the president. we know in the past he has done things at the urging of the president but we don't know whether he did that, you know, in this particular case and i think that is also quite