what is it that separates those people who are physically gifted, it seems like there's a mental component, too. i never thought when michael was on the court, that the bulls would ever lose. you always thought he'd figure out a way. >> yeah. well, there's a tremendous amount of pressure is what it is. because it's a double-edged sword. like i'm not on michael jordan's level. i'm a step below. i'm man enough to admit. >> is there anyone on his level? >> no, coby's a step below, lebron is a step below, but m e michael's here. but you get all the credit and you get the blame. that is mental pressure, first of all, very few people can handle it. even today well, charles barkley has never won a championship.