hourly rate is more than $10 an hour. i won't ask you to answer that, though. shimon prokupecz, he made a good point about how all this came out in terms of the client list. he said if it wasn't for the attorney representing the press, and the media in this, that hannity's name would not -- would have been filed and sealed. the judge was prepared to allow that to happen, just hand an envelope over to the judge with a name on it, but someone stood up and argued successfully against it. what does that mean, do you think, for the whole court battle going forward? >> i think it is very interesting. i love this new piece of information that we're hearing. were it up to michael cohen, he would have -- i love this out of a mob movie, slipped the name across the podium to the judge there. exactly. exactly. but then as you said, this -- the first amendment attorney for the press was able to convince judge wood, i think it speaks highly of kimba wood that she's making on the ground decisions in this case, she will not be swayed by sort of, you know, aggressive tactics on the part of these attorneys.