interviewed memos. director comey was taking notes so he could remember something very important, later put into a memo form. but they're not a traditional fbi 302 the way an agent would take notes from an interview. i think that's an important evidentiary aspect to keep in mind. >> sure. absolutely. but they are contemporaneous, they are real time, and they were being written by someone who at that time had no reason to expect that -- for seven more years. so, josh campbell, what do you see there? >> if you go back and look at the beginning of the relationship between director comey and then president elect trump, as comey said, this is someone that he saw, at least he viewed at the time as someone he might have to document and keep track of the meetings because they might come in handy later on for some type of -- some purpose. and shawn said at that point, he had no way to know he was going to be fired, but at least thought he was dealing with someone who may not accurately portray the nature of the meeting down the road. i think that's what we're seeing play out in front of us.