unlikely to fire him if he thinks he can just bypass kelly and govern as i say without a white house chief of staff. the only thing worse than a white house with a flawed chief of staff is a white house with no chief of staff. i mean history shows jerry ford tried it and lasted a month, jimmy carter tried it. two and a half years later he realized his mistake. it was too late for carter. he was famous sly a guy who even made ivanka go through him. how did he get marginalized? >> he was the hope for the administration. he's stop the chaos in the white