here a preview. >> this art is considered one of the oldest arts for afro americans and visualize patterns that are holder. for enslavement, there was no need for a beautiful piece. this say waste of time. >> need to get it done. it's like you're making tools. >> correct, correct. >> you're not making art. >> correct. >> you've done something i try to remind myself to do. you specifically say enslaved, not slaves. i try to remind myself that, you know, a person is not a slave. >> correct. it's out of respect. >> so you can't teach me how to do this, can you? >> colleen. get him. get him. >> i'm ready to be gotten. >> yes and no. >> okay. >> see, you're a come here, been here. >> you're a come here, we've a been here. >> yes. >> so i'm like a dark-skinned white man? >> yes. [ laughter ]