pencil it in first?" i said, "no, you just start drawing." "but don't you make a mistake?" i say, "there's no such thing as a mistake. a mistake is an opportunity to do something else. you have to leave it, let nature take its course." oh, my god. now isn't that lovely. that is -- i like that. i'm impressing myself it's so good. well, nature's impressing me, actually. it is just so wonderful how it works. it's a kind of natural process of evolution, isn't it? it's what we're doing all the time. >> anthony: you certainly -- your depiction of politicians early on seemed filled with rage and disgust. deservedly, i think. i mean, there were some epic depictions on nixon. was it nixon as godzilla? was it, that i -- ? >> ralph steadman: yeah. he was a great subject. i mean, i've done him as a flying nixon, or a vampire nixon, bat nixon. >> anthony: did you ever get an official reaction to your work from the white house? >> ralph steadman: never. >> anthony: "i am not a giant shitting godzilla." >> ralph steadman: yeah. [ laughs ] >> anthony: you don't want to deny that. >> ralph steadman: no, it's