convention and not worried or cog niz ants to have anything to do with the russians. i believe don jr. >> i think there is three big questions that come out of reading the don jr. transcript, put it on the table, he was seeking information about the clinton campaign and no one denies that. but there is three problems. he claimed he has no idea what the people he met with were trying to do. he didn't vet them and come to the meeting and no control. i don't know if i believe that. he needs to explain that more and he said they kept talking about the magnitsky act and he didn't know what that meant. and that means more explanation and he never said he never had conversations with his father about that and i don't find that believable. >> you don't buy it -- >> knowing what a micromanager donald trump is and how closely he monitors his staff is this believable there was a meeting with don jr. and jared kushner,