him against it. that is sort of the original sin in much of this. i'm not sure i buy christie or rudy would have had the same recusal. but bannon and zakaria is something i would watch all night. >> there are other things. steve bannon does say the president should fire rod rosenstein, like now, today. >> it gets curiouser and curiouser. and it has a cascading effect, as you point out. >> that has been the overriding private impulse of the president. because that, you know, in some ways, is a cleaner way of making things go away than sessions. >> but i don't think he wants to do that at this point. what he is doing is trashing the investigation. >> yes. >> so it's garbage in, garbage out. he can play himself the victim, using this as a tool on the