to go where else she is not going to move knee me in. she was very adamant about going to a hbcu. >> you could have said i have a full ride to yale and she was like, get there yourself. >> it sounds wild but my mom, she knew that you know growing up i was in majority white schools. and social settings. and i think she just knew that an hbcu was where i needed to be. i was honestly this sounds crazy. but i was tired of being the only black person. >> doesn't sound crazy. >> okay. i was really tired of being the only one and always having to defend, you know, my hair, just everything. >> explain. >> spokesperson for the race. >> yes that was becoming a lot for me, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. a lot of people who are critical of hbcus, like why would they segregate themselves and go to hbcu, also if you do that you're not in the real world you created this black world and college is supposed to prepare