year? so. >> and the defense of that is it was a mistake theyidn't give complete information. it wasn't that they completely -- they soed this bill of goods since the first time sarah walked out and sold it to us and they defended it -- >> let's think about the logic here, they're saying the president didn't do it. >> the president wld know if he did. >> exactly. certainly the people who were aboard air force one when he reportedly did it, the president's son, don junior would know. i don't understand this about, oh this is the information we had at the time, it was a mistake. it is a flat out lie. >> it's a flat out lie, they were trying to defend themselves. so, you know what, rudy is kind of telling the truth here, they soldiered some blarney, now that