important to them on the ground. which is health care, et cetera. i'm here, talking to you from dallas. here, i mean, people really do care about whether they're able to put their -- to get their child some health care if there's an emergency. >> it is. it is huge. >> health care. who will make the best deal? we'll see. jennifer granholm -- >> donald trump threw 32 million people off. we are just saying, democrats are going to be energized. >> that's just -- that's just not -- not even close to being true, jennifer. >> we'll be talking about health care a ton. it is a priority on the show. rick, appreciate you being here. jennifer, as always. all right. time to tangle with a sticky subject. the credibility crisis in the white house and the war with the media. a celebrated trump insider is going to join us next to argue that blaming the press is the secret to winning. next.